We will have our Tenth Annual On Farm Helmsman Sale Wednesday 28 November 2018 commencing at 2pm. (rams penned by 12.30pm). Again its in conjunction with agonline.co.nz, so can either attend sale which be held at Glenafric 1306 Mt Cass Road Waipara or start bidding from 8 November onwards online. This is where James and Maria Hoban farm with James parents Pat and Judith. I am share farming my Romney, Southdown and South Suffolk studs with them.
We will put up around 195 rams, comprising of around 90 plus Romney Rams, 40 Southdown Rams, 50 South Suffolk Rams
Below are some photos of the set up at last sale, except for the ewes photo, this is at Glenafric in June 2018. The wool shed photo is where people sat and bid with helmsman auction.
It is a helmsman sale, which I consider much more buyer friendly, as it enables clients to be able rank the rams they buy and bid on them, if their first pick ends up going higher than what they want to pay, they can still then turn around and bid on their second pick and so on it goes, as opposed to an auction where your 5th pick say comes up before your first and second. For a catalogue simply drop me an email firstname.lastname@example.org or give me a call on 03 6148388 or 0274427746
I determine the upset price, which for the last five years has been $600, first bid $650
Online Auction: I am the first breeder and still to date, the only breeder to have a helmsman ram sale that is run in conjunction with an online sale. Quite simply because its a lot of bloody work. So you can bid on rams at home or by attending the sale. You can place bids before the sale date, online and during the sale, it will be kept up to date both ways. The main practical advantage of this is that if you can't attend my sale on that day, you can come and inspect the rams prior to that date, and then bid on them from home on the day or simply leave an autobid to a certain limit: it provides the client with some flexibility about getting to see the rams. As there will be 20 second videos of all the rams at Agonline.co.nz and all their performance data, some clients simply buy them online without coming to see them at all. If you have seen my rams before, I dont think its that difficult to buy them online, you can see what their conformation, feet etc are like. Moreover the last two years I actually open up the wool on the Romneys in the Video so you can see what it looks like, so its not a total pot shot on wool.
Agonline: BIDDING ON LINE All intending buyers must register and activate their account before being able to bid. The registration process is as follows: 1. Go to www.agonline.co.nz. 2. Click on register 3. Enter your PGW client account number 4. Enter your Trading Entity the same as what is on your PGW Statement 5. Enter your GST Number 6. Choose a screen name (which is just a factious name) 7. Choose a password(take a note of your password) 8. Click submit 9. You should receive a confirmation email within a couple of hours of submitting your details) 10. You will need to click link on the confirmation email to activate the account. 11. You then will be able to bid on any lines of stock. 12. If they are not a current PGW account holder the process is the same but we require more details and it will take up to three days to approve.
As in “Trade me” if two parties are actively bidding on a lot at the close of the sale it will auto extend for two minutes until no further bids are placed.
Flexibility - This method of buying seeks to combine the best features of both the traditional bidding system and the sale by treaty. Because all lots are sold simultaneously, at the end of the auction Helmsman auction buyers get the opportunity to bid on any Ram in the catalogue until the auction concludes.
How the Auction Works On arrival as usual, the intending purchasers register at the registration table and receive a buyer number. All Rams are displayed for inspection, with relevant information provided in the catalogue. When the sale commences, all Rams are on the market simultaneously. You may bid on any Ram, regardless of lot number, by filling in a card and handing it to a ‘runner’ who will pass it to the auctioneer. You may open the bidding with any price unless there is a reserve price, in which case the bidding starts from that price. Further bids initially in multiples of $50 (minimum) will be accepted. Bids are recorded next to the lot number, with the buyer’s number & bid price on a large board displaying all lots in the auction room which is immediately adjacent to the Ram inspection area. You can bid on any number of Rams at once and can see at a glance whether your bid continues to stand or has been overbid. If your first choice Ram goes over your budget, you can still bid on any other Ram in the sale if you wish, including re-inspecting the Rams at any time. A bid once submitted and recorded cannot be retracted, and the person responsible for submitting such a bid will be responsible for it unless it is overbid. The sale will be held in 2 stages: First Stage: You must lodge a bid within in the first half hour of the auction if you wish to continue to have the opportunity to continue to bid on animals in the second half hour. Second Stage, the Auction will come to a close around 4pm and anyone who wishes to continue to bid will have 2 minutes to lodge such a bid. Whenever a new bid is made, the clock is restarted for the specified period of say 2 minutes, until there is no additional bid within a 2 minute period; at which time the winner of the auction will have been determined. Sale time estimate is about 1 and half hours
Tips for Helmsman Auction Buyers: The best way to operate at a Helmsman Auction is to predetermine your order of preference of Rams in the Auction. Even if you only want one Ram, have a selection list of at least 4 Rams or more. Then if your bidding preference exceeds your budget you immediately know your 2nd preference, and so on. By having your choices and prices predetermined you can make quick decisions as to your bidding preference if you are overbid. This can be important in the final stages of the auction. You will be able to bid as soon as the rams are listed, which will be well before the day of the sale, around three weeks before the actual sale ie the first week of November hopefully, but the auction will only close at the end of the Helmsman auction on the day of the sale The on line bids will be recorded on the board at the time of the sale. Any bids placed at the sale will be posted on the web site at the same time. On line bidders will need to refresh their screen to update bids. This applies more importantly towards the end of the auction period. CLICK HERE TO VIEW RAMS BEING OFFERED FOR SALE ON FARM (NB this link at present takes you to last years sale, it wont be till the beginning of November that it should link to this years!!